A consultation has opened on plans for 200 homes on agricultural fields at Cliffsend.
Land promotion business Richborough says it is preparing an outline planning application for the properties, aimed at families, with 60 earmarked as ‘affordable’ homes.
The 8.24ha site is on land off Cottington Road. A public right of way (PRoW) which runs through the site will be retained for walking and cycling.
The development will consist of properties ranging from one-bed to four-bed. Access will be at Cottington Road opposite St Augustine’s Cross.
Richborough says a proposed community orchard and play space will be enclosed by retained vegetation, and natural and semi-natural green space.
Proposals include a buffer area with no development to avoid noise from the railway and Richborough says it will preserve the view and setting of the Grade II Listed St. Augustine’s Cross.
A consultation website claims there will be highways improvements along Cottington Road and “a multifunctional green space that includes play areas for all ages, orchards, parks, gardens, and sustainable urban drainage systems, while enhancing biodiversity.”
The Richborough website says of the location: “Currently, the Site is identified within the provisional mapping as Grade 1 BMV agricultural land. This is not uncommon for the area as virtually all land surrounding Cliffsend, Ramsgate, Broadstairs and Margate is also shown as Provisional Grade 1.
“Upon detailed surveys of surrounding land, most Provisional Grade 1 land has been shown to be Grade 2 and 3a, and the closest known data to the Site is the Thanet Parkway Station, which was classified as Grade 2.”
A planning application will be submitted “in the coming months,”
The consultation is open until Monday 30th September.
Give your views at: https://www.cottingtonroad.co.uk/
Angry at this proposal? I’ll say I am!
What do those photos show there now?, lovely wheat ready to harvest as FOOD for the nation, food that will need to be imported when this gets planning permission as surely it will.
This rapeing of our farmland has to stop along with the unfettered immigration that is the catalyst for this criminality..When is this going to stop?
As for 60 ‘affordable’ homes, affordable to whom? Very, very few that are on Thanet wages that’s for sure.
St Augustine’s Cross? He’d be bloody furious!
You is very funny, real world. No, you really is,
Anyone’s funnier than you.
I’m catatonic with rage! Major Bloodnok.
“After careful consideration, we’re finally in a position to issue a firm decision. It’s No” (see how easy it is?)
Another land grab by greedy developers promising the landowner the earth but not having the faith or belief in these hare brained plans to actually put their hand in their pocket and buy the land before making the application.
This site isn’t listed in the local plan, is A1 agricultural land (the developer wishing/stating that it isn’t doesn’t make that true) and as for the ‘affordable’ homes if the application is successful how long will it take for the developer to suddenly find that they’re not going to make sufficient profit to actually build the proposed number of affordable homes so they drastically reduce the number?
NO MORE SPECILATIVE LAND GRABS!!
The developer/ speculator will have put some money up, they’ll have entered into an option agreement with the landowner , usually a sum of money giving them the option to but the land at a given price or share profits with the landowner if the development gains planning permission and goes ahead. There is also a cost in preparing a submission.
Do these developers actually live in the UK? I assume not, because they couldn’t care less about a sustainable food supply.
LOLZ, we import most of our food, especially in winter. Don’t tell me you’re one of these nutters like those in garlinge backing the james melville fronted, dark money funded astroturf campaign “no farmers, no food”?
MY LATE MUM ONCE SAID TO ME-IN 80 YEARS TIME-THERE WILL BE NO COUNTRYSIDE-JUST HOUSES AND GRIDLOCKED ROADS.
How many prime agricultural fields were destroyed by greedy developers to build your house?
None. It was built on the site of far older buildings.
And you?
The same as yours I would imagine.
There has to be a balance between housing and being able to grow enough food to feed the people that currently live in this country. I fear that balance has already been tipped in the wrong direction and needs to be halted – now! Net zero becomes a total joke if we continue to import yet more and more of our essential foodstuffs.
Net zero is a joke, “anthropogenic climate change, the biggest con since the invention of religion”
In news elsewhere apparently an application for a 200 acre solar farm near ash.
You’re having a laugh aren’t you, “Tactical Grace”? Climate change is of course partly, if not largely ,produced by what humans are doing to the planet.
Hundreds of governments and political leaders representing millions and millions of people, have signed up to the various United Nations Climate Change Conferences.
The overwhelming scientific consensus says that climate change is happening, and is caused by human activity.
Simple GCSE level science explains the physics and the chemistry of Climate change.
And “Tactical Grace” says it’s a con.
Hmm.
And, M.M. Rees, there are no known physical phenomina to explain the 1.5ºC rise in global temperatures since the Industrial Revolution. The burning of fossil fuels by humans does.
Smoking , asbestos, thalidomide, feeding minced chickens to chickens, tulips, bernie madoff, credit, all things that were or still are seen as things of wonder and great benefit and subsequently have or will be seen to be not as good as we were lead to believe.
Covid will join the list of global overreactions and in due course man made climate change will be seen as a total joke, of course we’ll all be long gone by then.
Only we daft brits on our grossly overpopulated little isle seem to have taken the bait hook line and sinker and seem intent on paupering ourselves, the chinese can barely contain their laughter.
Our planet has been in a state of climatic flux since it was formed and will comtinue to do so, only humans could be so arrogant as to believe they can determine the planets trajectory fby looking at such a tiny amount of history.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/ I’d love for you to rebuke the petrochemical industries own research they spent forty years and hundreds of millions via fossial fuel funded global think tank networks to cover up…
Ton, we import the majority of our food, especially in winter. Hence why the government, like the previous one before it, has refused to implement incoming goods and SPS checks on incoming foods due to the hyperinflation and scarcity it’d cause…
No need to import even more and more food to also feed more and more immigrants whose presence exacerbates the need to build housing at unprecedented rates on said valuable farm land. Stop immigration, stop building houses, especially on farmland.
That’s all right then, is it?
Peace Makes plenty- Global warming is humanity-made. Why don’t you want to accept this fact? Perhaps people don’t accept it because they know they are contributing to it and don’t want to feel guilty about it.
I blindly accept very few things , they need to be explained demonstrated and proven to my satisfaction for me to believe. Which is why I have no time for religion. Yet billions of people across the globe choose to live their lives in accordance with religious instruction, the evidence is scant and instead relies in faith that what you’re told has substantial basis in historic fact.
Where as as far as i’m concerned religion is just the original form of population control not entirely based on coercion and violence ( though of course no religion has been afraid to throw itsweight about when its been conveneient)
The whole global warming , man made climate chnge debate is to my mind the same. Just a form of population control . Data sets conjured up to show the greatest increases ever, but then it turns out the data was from selected sources that in those cases are the greatest ever but sometimes those sources have only been in use a short while.
The planet is billions of years old, there is plentiful evidence of warmer and cooler periods over that history , than our current climate. The microscopic analysis of the last 200 years then compared to very broad interpretations of data which has no such detail and as such can’t be seen as comparable.
The eco brigade talk of sea temperatures , but these are most often surface temps or in the very top layers, this is then presented as though all the oceans have reached such temperatures, do we have longterm data sea temps at say 200m depth intervals in a 200km grid around the globe , no we don’t , as such the data is meaningless.
All the talk of glacial retreat, but little mention of the days when glaciers ran across the UK, why was the warming that led to those not seen as a problem , why is there no consideration of the mechanisms that led to the ice ages and subsequent warming periods? They most certainly had nothing to do with human activity.
Egypt was once lush farmland, the desserts once no such thing, the UK sits on huge reserves of coal formed from what was once many millenia of uninterrupted pllant growth. Yes man has shaped the planet and bred to an extent that in its purely natural state the planet couldn’t support is all. So we’ve used the natural resources to make our lives easier and more comfortable.
I survived quite happily in the 70’s and 80’s and would do so again if we went back to such times, but society seemingly has a great need to spend endless hours staring at screens and content created by AI for no practical purpose beyond it being the easiest way to kill time , the internet in too many cases is no more than bubble gum for the brain, yet the internet uses huge amounts of energy ,especially if you include data mining and AI services, very little of that is actually of any real value.
I have no guilt regarding my carbon footprint, on a global scale it’ll be way above the average, but thats largely a result of my living in a developed country, but within the uk alone i’d guess i’m probably a little below average, i rarely fly these days, my home is decently insulated and for journeys under a mile each way i’ll usually walk. I don’t consume huge quantities of excess calories i keep reasonably fit and healthy and to date i’ve not been a burden on health care or social support.
You choose to believe I do not, but i rather expect I’ve put way more effort into forming my opinion than yourself and many others. However my view makes no difference to what happens. The “anthropogenic climate change” brigade is now sufficiently established that “resistance is futile” and the drivel our politicians spout just keeps the ball rolling. We had Milliband getting all excited about the last renewables auction round, but when dissected it was utter nonsense and the notional success only achieved because ever greater amputs of public money was thrown into the pot. Have a listen to Radio 4s More or Less and their analysis.
Society today is pretty much run on the basis of give people access to enough food, alcohol, drugs and free stuff , you’ll be able to tell them anything. We’ve succeeded spectacularly, millions who do nothing for what they receive and huge portions of the population that are addicted to mindless internet content to the extent that real life is too much effort. Not hard to steer such a society. It’s also made our political classes very lazy, ineffectual and too reliant on buying votes.
Goodness!
Confusing “Religion” with “Science” really doesn’t help your argument.
Religion is a faith based system. You might or might not have a belief in a deity. Science is fact based. You can’t “believe” that the Earth is roundish – it’s a fact. The Sun is about 83 million miles away. Fact. At sea level, water boils at 100 ºC. Fact. Not faith.
All your observations about paleoclimate are facts. But they refer to the climate hundreds of millions of years ago, and the mechanisms that lead to warming and cooling of the Earth are well understood by Earth Scientists. The facts are known.
What is also well understood by a huge consensus of the World’s scientists is that the rise in global temperature of more than 1.5 ºC can only be explained by the burning of fossil fuels by humans. There is no known “natural” process that will fit the facts.
Global Warming is happening and is anthropogenic.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/ debunk the fossiel fuel industries own researc they spent forty years and hundreds of millions covering up, Peace.
Bet you can’t.
Maybe just stuck in the moderation queue.
But no link, check out John Christy. ( career climate scientist , with many successes to his name) uses real science and data to discredit many of the headlines we are bombarded with regarding climate change.
Watch some of his lectures and interviews, most people don’t bother because he doesn’t serve up meme’s and soundbites.
A good example of his lectures, do a search – John Christy Lecture 17 July 2023- it’ll come up as being over an hour long but his lecture finishes after about 45 mins but the rest is a Q&A , but atill worth listening to , he deals very well with questions from the floor.
As I was trying to say earlier , the whole man made climate debate relies largely on “faith” in that those receiving the message believe those giving it, much like religion.
Thanet is no longer the place i love- i feel the need move-
Beautiful county-side eaten up by modern houses
bye bye, then another moaner saying they are going to move but will not,will stay and carry on moaning
You’re happy living in a place where children can’t walk the streets in broad daylight? (Your words, not mine)
Off you trot then!
Golf Courses take up almost as much land in the UK as all the housing put together. Does Thanet really need three of them while our farms are being concreted over?
Or hundreds of acres of abandoned brown field site, which could accommodate 1000s of houses.
Oh darling Ray
You sound just wonderful,
I wasn’t moaning i was just stating its becoming a drag.
People like you don’t help !
Maybe thats why others want to move away -from your positive attitude
Where will you go?
It’s much the same all over the country.
A couple of weeks back we did a 14 mile walk from Teynham to Faversham via Lynsted, Doddington, Newnham and Painters Forstal, and the only new housing we saw was on the Faversham outskirts.
You need to cross the Wantsum more.
I am positive ,lived in Thanet most of my life ,have seen other areas of the UK .Big towns and cities,all have the same problem as here no worse no better ,unless you move to a small village of hamlet,even those have problems.Anyway I love Thanet ,maybe I am in the small minority
Other towns with problems don’t have the likes of Emin appearing on TV telling people how Margate has been totally revived by art (as she did yesterday). Silly mare!
Oh noes, an artist telling the truth about the local situation and how many artists moving to the town have improved the economy and refurbished boarded up, dilapidated businesses. I mean, two/three years ago, would a globally renowned streetwear brand with hundreds of millions in turnover, like Stussy, have moved to the former Kabuki building?
I wouldn’t call her an “artist”. More a good con merchant, preying on the rich and the gullible.
I’ll be utterly amazed if they’re still there in another 3 years.
Jean, its likely your attitude that is holding you back and if you did move, your attitude would still be with you.
There you go then kent is not all built over.Most of Kent contains less than 6% urban terrain.Even then the 6% includes parks and gardens etc.
Every house,even chateau Checksfield was or is built on what was either forest/downland or fields at one time.
It might seem that Thanet is being picked on.It is true that only Dartford and Gravesham have more urban terrain, and as I have said many times before, Westwood cross is a badly planned disgrace but nevertheless land is being made available to developers by the owners, and they are not thinking about the next crop of wheat or cauliflowers.
Sure if a certain large brownfield site became available it would cut the amount of greenfield development,but it would not end development in Thanet.
If we want to change things we should demand that social housing be built, and that all development now should be intensive and not low rise estate housing.
Being angry might feel OK, but it achieves nothing.
What is that horrible droning sound?
Oh, it’s Nokesy having a break from his jigsaw.
That droning sound is nemesis knocking on your door checksie, not fairy tales and half baked theories.
You should allow your brain to get out more and allow it to learn more than poptastic legends, though as a branch of social science it has it’s place. It’s just that I feel sorry for your brain living in that lonely dome of yours.
I could discuss the etymology of the drone, with you, but as it would not include anything about Elvis, or Thunderclap Newman, it would be like most of your posts, pointless.
Putting down Elvis now? How low can you get? You’ll be criticising Cliff Richard next.
Elvis a copyist ,he copied black American music and in the 70s copied other artistes cliff an uk Elvis copyist
Building on prime agricultural land ? Are the fields in the local plan for development ? If it does get permission it needs to include a Doctors surgery for the village, it is rapidly turning into a town.
A town with no shops!
To all the keyboard warriors on here –
Me held back !Hardly-
Just because i don’t sound as educated as the keyboard warriors with not much else to do except type away about loads of nonsense. Im so very sorry that I mentioned the word “move”
Its fine ok, as for the future when I’m long gone. Thanet will be joint with London. The future -yay