An installation at the East Cliff bandstand created by Ramsgate schoolchildren and artist Conrad Shawcross will be officially opened this morning (September 30).
Beacons is an installation of four galvanised steel tripods with spinning discs at the top and was created in a Turner Contemporary scheme as part of its Pioneering Places project with some 70 Ramsgate schoolchildren from St Laurence’s Junior Academy and Ramsgate Arts Primary working with Conrad Shawcross.
The temporary installation will be in place for up to one year. The four structures have a perforated steel disc on top of a steel pole and will be weighted by a tripod base. They can be manually made to spin via a dial in the pole. The handle can be removed (by Turner Contemporary) when access to the artwork might be required to be restricted.
The children involved in the project have researched Ramsgate, with a focus on the historic character of its Royal Harbour, and this was used for their ideas for the artwork.
The themes are drawn from nautical signalling and ideas about Ramsgate and its Royal Harbour as a place of refuge as well as Play and Playfulness- noting Ramsgate’s legacy as a tourist destination; Caring – noting how to deal with environmental issues, pollution of the harbour, sea, air and litter in the town and Modern Machines – in a nod to Georgian civil engineering, such as Ramsgate’s sluices, bollards, basin gates and John Smeaton’s dry dock.
The creation has a concealed word hidden within the design, based on a coded alphabet devised by the children. The word HOME was chosen by the children to be the message that the beacons send out to sea.
Conrad Shawcross, children from St Laurence Junior Academy and Ramsgate Arts Primary will be at this morning’s opening from 10am to 11am. There will also be live music.
Hideous. Absolutely hideous, the basis are huge and ugly how the hell did these get pass planning.
https://planning.thanet.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=QVIHB6QEIAO00&activeTab=summary
That planning application is for the bandstand. The lollipops arent in the bandstand. The lollipops are on the lawns. All the pictures before the installation show the lollipops on the bandstand.
They are a tempary structure so won’t need Planning Permission! I think they are splendid, has anyone thought of moving them around Thanet to various locations? They should make people think, which they obviously failed in your case No Name above, Duurh!
How exciting for the children, I wish when I was a kid I could have been involved in something like this. Great memories made for the children with their involvement in something so significant. Well done.
Yes the kids have designed these, so thats good for them, they do look terrible and an eyesore, is this the best we can expect in Ramsgate, assuming all funding is being spent in Margate still
Wandered past them last night, they look very striking and quite joyful – I really like the positioning and the obvious link to the toy spinning windmills on sticks we all associate with childhood beach holidays. Great to have something fresh and cheery on the rather ignored unloved Eastcliff – and hopefully the increased interest (and visitors) will make it easier to get proper funding for improvements to the lift, bandstand, theatre and so on. Well done all to the kids involved and the local organisers who got this funded by the Arts Council and the Turner.
These really dont look in keeping with the seafront, Margates the place for this rubbish
I like them too, just as I like the colourful displays of buckets, spades, beachballs, windmills etc inside and outside some of our shops. The giant lollipops are very much in keeping with some aspects of Ramsgate’s seafront.
WTF are they supposed to be ,
Read the article!!
Waste of money
well words fail me ! this is the latest heap of rubbish being planted in this area – it achieves or provides what ? i just hope this arty farty nonsense fizzles out in time and they take this rubbish and the barge with them.
i forgot to ask , where did the money for this nonsense come from ?
As much as I dont like them I think they would have looked better on the seafront.
So many negative comments
Money would have been better spent sorting that lift out so its functional all year round.
When the lift was working, it only operated during the summer months.
And it could run all year, or do disabled an old people only visit the beach in the summer
The themes are drawn from nautical signalling and ideas about Ramsgate and its Royal Harbour as a place of refuge as well as Play and Playfulness- noting Ramsgate’s legacy as a tourist destination; Caring – noting how to deal with environmental issues, pollution of the harbour, sea, air and litter in the town and Modern Machines – in a nod to Georgian civil engineering, such as Ramsgate’s sluices, bollards, basin gates and John Smeaton’s dry
I don’t for one moment believe that school kids came up with this pretentious drivel,
“ the kids wanted bright spinny things “ would have been a bit more honest . They look totally out of context in their surroundings from my point of view . Pretty much art for arts sake. But no doubt there are many others who feel differently.
I don’t see how the themes are “pretentious drivel”. Both primary and secondary school education have a wide range of subjects in the curriculum. I would expect children involved in this to learn about several aspects of Ramsgate’s history before participating in a group decision as to what form the installation would take..
There’s a ramsgate secondary school where a practical lesson in chemistry had deteriorated to cutting and gluing in a scrap book due to behaviour issues, but even this had to be stopped as a result of inappropriate use of scisssors and glue.
No doubt the kids in this instance were pretty much indoctrinated with the “pretentious drivel” before regurgitating it in the group decision, force feeding the correct “view of the day” is not education.
Have you worked in a school recently,LC? As a teacher or teaching assistant, that is.
No but i have friends who do, including someone who’s a behaviour mentor in a thanet primary school., for whom being hit, kicked,scratched or bitten is a weekly occurence. The story of glue and scissors comes from a thanet science teacher who didn’t believe the school in which the post was offered could be as bad as its reputation , they soon found out it was and returned to their previous school.
Margate has benefited massively from the initially despised Turner. Ramsgate could have turned the Victoria Palace into something similar, instead it’s a pub. Of course Ramsgate’s very short on pubs, so that’s understandable. But whilst this aint great art, at least it’s an attempt to cheer the place up. Lighten up people.
Turner or Victoria:
Which attracts most visitors?
Which brings most pleasure?
Which hasn’t cost the taxpayer millions?
LC- if your friend is a behaviour mentor then the children they work with will be the ones with behaviour problems-a minority in most schools.
I don’t see how that’s related to your theory that children are indoctrinated into what you call “the correct view of the day”.
My partner’s grandchildren are constantly telling us about what they’ve been told at school , being 7 and 9 they are impressionable and have no life experience to question/argue what they are being fed as a result they accept it all without question , this is what i call indoctrination.
All children at school are told things. And they’re told things at home as well.Isn’t the latter indoctrination, if the former is? Or is it only indoctrination if children are told things you don’t agree with?
I very much doubt that any parents discuss the points I highlighted in my first post as a quote from the article and that not many would even think of those points.
It seems implausible that anyone looking into the harbours history wouldn’t include references to the “little ships” and the harbours role during the worlld wars, no reference to the fishing fleet over the harbours history or its importance in shipbuilding and trade or the harbours more recent use as a base for windfarm work, which given the design of the artwork must surely have been an influence.
It’s not a matter of whether i agree with whats being taught to young children rather the lack of any balance or alternative view. Without a balance how do they form their own opinions?
What an eyesore. Looks like a horror set for the teletubhies
Education can be a wonderful thing!
‘teletubhies’
i am glad the rest of the places turner visited did not latch on to him how thanet has , we would have to called turner world
ps – same applies to mr dickens !
Well done everyone involved and especially the kids
Waste of time and money gives the immigrants something to focus on as a point to head for when leaving France.
had the bring that up, are we sat there red faced watching all the youtube clips of more people coming over? does it boil your Pi$$
Hahaha! Beacon, innit! Don’t tell Priti, she’ll get one of her minions to tear it down.
Why don’t you use your real name, “Kent Resident”?
Like the “Rainbow” steps and Kent Steps, here we have a public art installation, inspired by children, brightening up the place.
It will be a very sad day if things are judged solely on their utilitarian value.
He could just change it to Angry red faced Gammon..
Turner Contemporary can keep them in Margate,is already full of rubbish (Turner Contemporary )
It’s a new installation that will attract interest in Thanet. However, look at the bigger picture in the surroundings. The grassed area and borders are a complete eyesore. It needs weeding and for goodness sake plant the whole area with interesting structural plants that will enhance the installation. There has obviously been no thought about this whatsoever. Why aren’t there any lollipops on the adjacent side of the Bandstand. Give it some symmetry. Even the sign that explains the installation is a piece of plastic (more fish food), that is tied to the railings with tie wraps. Get a grip Thanet Council and look at it properly. Have pride in your work. Show it off, not turn us off.