A public notice issued to gauge interest in reinstating Ramsgate’s market has been published by Thanet council.
But hopes of a return to the weekly, town market have been dashed with the notice calling for a supplier for “a monthly outdoor market” in either “Ramsgate High Street and/or Westcliff Promenade Green (Government Acre).”
The notice says: “new location proposals would be considered.”
The soft market testing is to find out the levels of interest from new potential market operators and suggestions on the number of traders who will be able to operate during each market, and what range of products will be on offer.
The town centre, Friday market shut when covid restrictions were brought in during March 2020. It briefly reopened in June of that year but issues around placement meant the market closed again. A new site proposed for Pier Yard car park on the seafront was scuppered at the 11th hour.
Traders were then given the go-ahead to use Staffordshire Street car park, taking space in several disabled parking bays. But there was a drop in traders taking part on Fridays and none willing to set up for business at the site on Saturdays.
The low number of stalls meant falling income, with then-operator Hughmark making a decision to cease trade in the town.
In October 2020 Thanet council said there were plans to create a new Canterbury style format with gazebos and themed days and the market contract would go out to tender.
But there has been no return of the market since that date.
On Monday (January 25) Thanet council said it was launching a review of the market, adding: ““As part of the review, we will also be looking at the location of the market and whether a new location would be more beneficial in the long term.
“We hope that potential traders will get involved in the Public Information Notice exercise and share their views as we look to create a vibrant and sustainable market that supports the local community.”
The deadline to respond to the notice is 2pm on February 28.
The council is using the Kent Business Portal to carry out the soft marketing exercise. To view further information, register for free at firstname.lastname@example.org
The estimated Invitation to Tender start date will be in March with the estimated contract start date in May.
Ramsgate councillor Helen Crittenden says a monthly market is not what is needed.
She said: “On moving from Dumpton Stadium, Ramsgate Market remained a traditional weekly market, operating along the roads off Market Square in the town centre.
“The newly published PIN appears to be suggesting the final removal of a traditional market that began in Ramsgate in 1959 and replacing it with a completely different animal.
“Despite not being actively consulted by TDC officers, as ward councillors representing the views of the businesses and residents in our wards, many of us have tried to communicate that Ramsgate needs the return of the weekly market in the High Street. What little responses we have received from officers have resisted that message and tried to promote something else.
“It now seems from the PIN that officers have decided, despite our attempts at representing our residents, to end the traditional weekly market and replace it with something else.
“A monthly market will attract a more artisan trader and not the regular weekly traders who will not favour Ramsgate one week a month and jeopardise a weekly income in another town.
“An artisan market is an attractive addition to the weekly market, such as we have seen in the past on an ad hoc basis, and which could actually be organised on an ‘events’ basis through Ramsgate Town Council.
“A monthly market, even in the High Street, will not attract the additional regular footfall that our town centre permanent traders desperately need.
“I was surprised to see Government Acre is being considered as a future site for any market. Westcliff Promenade is vulnerable to the elements and the weather is likely to deter both traders and customers for several months of the year.
“Parking is also likely to be a problem and the site is not as readily served by public transport as the town centre High Street.
“The regular weekly traders won’t go that far out of town, as we know because in the past they have told us and voted with their feet.
“This location will not be contributing towards the thriving town centre, or the regeneration of our High Street, elements referenced in the Council’s Corporate Plan. Nor contribute towards the Ramsgate Future Investment ‘roadmap’ that was outlined only last week.”
I think the government acre area along the promenade would be more suitable than the high street with free parking in that area.
I don’t think Government Acre is very accessible if you don’t have a car. I think the High Street is the better location. But not sure if a monthly market is the best option. Why not every Friday? Talking to stall holders I gather that Thanet charge much higher pitch fees than say Canterbury Herne Bay and I think that is one reason why take up of stalls is not higher. I would welcome the market back in either location and am shocked at how long it is taking Thanet Council to sort this out
The town centre, where the market used to be, is still the best place. Easy to get to, near the Loop bus route, near cafes, pubs, loos and shops.
Tdc should ask their residents if they want a ramsgate market, where to locate it, type of goods for sale and frequency.
That pin tender is advertised at £100k (insert concerned emoji here)
I think the town centre, the high street, is the right place for the market. Otherwise people without cars (and not living to the west of the town) wouldn’t be able to get there so easily..WWX has gone a long way to wrecking the High Street – why let the market location finish it off?
If you really must drive to town, then park at Waitrose, Aldi or Asda’s (for free), do a bit of shopping there, then you’ve still got an hour or so to stroll round the market.
Never mind asking businesses… how about asking potential customers?
I agree wholeheartedly with you Andrew. I remember the market at the greyhound race track (you struggled to get around as it was so busy) but when it moved to the high street it was still well attended (just not the coaches) and it was useful for the locals as well as visitors as it was in the area where you would go walk about.
people can get all the old crap they need off the internet without leaving a warm house and worrying about the rip off parking in ramsgate , or getting knocked over by a mobility scooter which seems a popular means of transport in ramsgate
The town must be the only place for a market. It will boost footfall and may just help the town survive . Car parking for free is essential and cheap rates for stall holders to encourage traders and shoppers. If there is no real benefits going to town then it will fail. Traders need to be able to make a profit or they will not return
It has to be a weekly market in the town to bring people to the town to boost spending in the shops.
Goverment acre wood be good for the market traders but it wouldn’t benefit the towns shops.
The market should be in the heart of the town. The High Street is the right place, and it should be weekly. It’s been part of the town’s heartbeat and I’d be thrilled to see its return.
Have you tried to park your car at GOV Acre in the week it would be impossible on market day, you would have to catch the Loop Bus.
Government Acre in the rain? I don’t think so! Ramsgate High Street is the right venue and it should be weekly not monthly. Our high streets in general need all the help they can get, a weekly market would help regenerate the town. Encourage coach parties by allowing coaches to park for low rates on the old Marina swimming pool car park. Charge realistic rates for the traders.