An authorised Gypsy site could be created in Ramsgate if councillors grant permission

The application is for land off Newlands Lane

A Gypsy site could be created on land in Ramsgate if Thanet council approves planning permission.

An application has been made to convert Little Newlands Piggery off Newlands Lane into “two Gypsy pitches with two caravans on each pitch together with formation of hardstanding and ancillary dayroom.”

The site, at the rear of Forelands Fields School, would house one mobile home , one touring caravan and a utility/dayroom. The utility/dayroom will provide facilities to minimize hazards associated with cooking and fire in the close confines of caravans and provide facilities for washing and bathing.

The application states: “The development site is located in green wedge between Northwood and Broadstairs. The site is sustainable with school and bus stop within walking distance and supermarket 1.6km away. The site is located on the north side of Newlands Lane. The site is bounded by the the open fields.”

The agent, Green Planning Studio based in Shrewsbury,  adds: “There will be children living on the site and as such any decision taken by the council should be made having considered the best interests of the children on the site.

“There is an explicit requirement to treat the needs of the children on the site as a primary consideration and, in respect of a decision by the LPA to safeguard and promote the welfare and well-being of the children.”

Thanet council is currently dealing with an illegal encampment of Travellers at Jackey Bakers.

A spokesman said: ““Officers from Thanet District Council’s Community Safety Team, with support from the police, have visited the location (known as Jackey Bakers) to conduct the required checks and to issue the individuals with a formal notice requiring that they depart.”

The application was submitted on May 31 and is awaiting decision.

The nearest authorised Travellers sites to Thanet are at Aylesham and Canterbury.

Providing Traveller sites – the law

The Housing Act 2004 and Planning Circular 01/2006, Planning for Gypsy and Traveller Caravan Sites, has put in place a framework which means every local authority has to identify land for the sites that are needed in its area. The Secretary of State has powers that can ensure that those sites are identified, and the Local Government Association (LGA) says local authorities should be proactive in doing so.

The LGA adds: “The provision of these sites removes a major cause of friction between the two communities – unauthorised sites and illegal camping.”

The Gypsy and Traveller communities

According to a report by the LGA there are around 16,000 Gypsy and Traveller caravans in England. Around three quarters of these caravans are on authorised sites.

Many of these sites are well-managed and are an accepted part of the local community. In 1994 the duty on local authorities to provide sites was removed and since then under-provision of authorised sites has resulted in Gypsies and Travellers camping on land that they do not own (unauthorised encampments) or developing their own land without planning permission (unauthorised developments).

While the number of caravans on unauthorised encampments has started to decline, the number of caravans on unauthorised developments has increased. The average size of an unauthorised development is around 4 caravans, and private sites with planning permission have an average of 6 caravans.

16 Comments

  1. You have only got to read the recent report of how Cllr Piper was treated recently to understand why this is a VERY VERY BAD IDEA.

  2. The council are mental if they alliw this to go ahead. Currently putting up with it from these delightful ones at jakey bakers so no way do i want it permanently so close!

  3. There is no precedent for a permanent Traveller Encampment in Thanet …So we should resist any change to that …

  4. So as I see it we would be paying our council tax to the council who would spend it to create a travellers site for people who pay no council tax and take from the community instead of contribute!

  5. After the ones we have had to put up with, I am completely against this, very bad idea and it’s our tax money that will pay for it

  6. Really … do we need this … there’s been a lot of trouble already , with dogs going missing , cars being driven in the children’s park . More drama we could do without around here if I’m totally honest

  7. planning application F/TH/17/0779

    applicant Ms Mary McGinley

    landowner GEORGE JOHN GENTLE of 1 Gilinstown Road, Lurgan, Craigavon, County Armagh BT66 8RL

  8. Not only do they excrete all over the place, they leave loads of rubbish for the Tax Payer to PAY for clearance.
    Whoever thought this one up must be nuts.

  9. Just have a look at the reports from the Dane Valley site they were cleared from a few weeks ago. Bulldozer springs to mind.

  10. Would TDC really consider allowing this site (which will attract many more than two caravans ) right outside the entrance to two schools?
    Why does the plan require a utility building just for two vans
    This will become a much lager site with all the problems of Dane valley and Jackey bakers

      • Caravans for residential purposes would have their own facilities, a utility building with dayroom /Wash rooms/ Kichen /Bathroom as requested in the application is more like a caravan site facility for touring vans!

        • well you have answered your own question really,but caravans have their own facilities but no running water so something plumbed in would be needed,it’s just up the road from me and a tiny plot of land,if it goes bad then so be it!

  11. To have them here permanently!!! Look at the problems they cause when there here for several weeks uninvited. No way should this ever even been thought about. More theft and vandalism that the police won’t do anything about. No Thanks !

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